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now that those who believed in austerity have abandoned it, will paul ryan accept that the president's balanced approach is actually the better way to deliver economic growth? >> yes, and i think the comment from this colorful mayor as well as a lot of other european leaders should make both parties step back here. remember what the fiscal cliff, the prem m is -- the entire premise that it is based on in august of 2011, which is that we had to have deficit reduction to match dollar to dollar the amount of debt ceiling extension. that is a good policy if we're in 3% or 4% economic growth but when the economy is growing at 1% or 2% growth you don't engage in fiscal austerity. 90% of all economists believe in keynesian economics. the idea now that we have to be facing a fiscal cliff when the economy is only at 2% is wrong and is wrong for most economists' point of view. if democrats and republicans are looking for a way out of the fiscal cliff, this whole idea of having to cut $1.6 trillion in january '13 is just a made up number. it's an artifice. there's no reason we need to stick to th
now that those who believed in austerity have abandoned it, will paul ryan accept that the president's balanced approach is actually the better way to deliver economic growth? >> yes, and i think the comment from this colorful mayor as well as a lot of other european leaders should make both parties step back here. remember what the fiscal cliff, the prem m is -- the entire premise that it is based on in august of 2011, which is that we had to have deficit reduction to match dollar to...
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paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these ideas we're talking about are popular ideas. >> these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. they were so popular, michelle, he lost the presidential election, he lost his home state of wisconsin, he even lost his hometown of janesville, but he says he has a mandate. >> look, mr. ryan has visions of 2016 dancing in his head. he can't admit that what he's based his entire legislative career on, this budget plan of his s a loser. he has also made noises, as dana points out, he wants to be part of the solution going forward. he's going to be a little more conciliatory than they have been in the past if they want to get anything done. because the republicans don't want this fiscal cliff bomb to go off, because then their priorities are going to be in the firing line. >> you could have fooled me, mic
paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these ideas we're talking about are popular ideas. >> these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. they were so popular, michelle, he lost the presidential election, he lost his home state of wisconsin, he even lost his hometown of janesville, but he says he...
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not mitt romney and not paul ryan, but karl rove. mr. rove took mornd $300 million from conservative donors on a promise that he would deliver mitt romney to the white house. sadly for mr. rove and painfully for his donors, it didn't quite work out. joining us now is rick tyler, who is a former spokesman for the great newt gingrich and he also worked on the senate campaign for todd akin, and ken vogel is chief investigative reporter for politico. if i can start with you, rick, you make an appearance in ken's extensive story calling karl rove a colossal failure and then you say this, i don't think donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out the architect didn't know what he was talking about. what do you mean, that karl rove didn't know what he was talking about, mr. tyler? >> well, karl rove makes great tv and he's interesting to read in "the wall street journal," but after karl rove lost the gingrich majority, i always questioned karl rove. remember, karl rove was the one who designed the second bush campaig
not mitt romney and not paul ryan, but karl rove. mr. rove took mornd $300 million from conservative donors on a promise that he would deliver mitt romney to the white house. sadly for mr. rove and painfully for his donors, it didn't quite work out. joining us now is rick tyler, who is a former spokesman for the great newt gingrich and he also worked on the senate campaign for todd akin, and ken vogel is chief investigative reporter for politico. if i can start with you, rick, you make an...
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the paul ryan budget. because what better to bring good tidings of comfort and joy than balancing tax cuts for the rich on the backs of intitlement cuts for the working poor. mind you, that's actually a healthier reaction than that of mr. boehner's colleague in the senate, mitch mccandle, who repo reportedly laughed at the president's budget. at least he doesn't invoke the civil war. yes, the american civil war, when talking budget cuts. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an insulting deal. what geithner offered, what you showed on the screen, robert e. lee was offered easier terms at appomattox and he losted the civil war. >> now, now, now, charles, that's not very christmassy of you. we don't mind if you wrap yourself to the flag, just make sure it's the one with 50 stars on it. dr. james peterson is a contributor to thegrio.com and robert reich is former labor secretary a and a professor and the author of "beyond outrage," now available in paperback. welcome to both of you. dr. peterson, i coul
the paul ryan budget. because what better to bring good tidings of comfort and joy than balancing tax cuts for the rich on the backs of intitlement cuts for the working poor. mind you, that's actually a healthier reaction than that of mr. boehner's colleague in the senate, mitch mccandle, who repo reportedly laughed at the president's budget. at least he doesn't invoke the civil war. yes, the american civil war, when talking budget cuts. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an...
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that's a direct repudiation of what paul ryan has stood for. because he tied himself to closely to paul ryan's economic plan, it basically became a repudiation of that plan as well. >> now, paul ryan is often mentioned as a possible presidential candidate for 2016. but don't republicans have to have a serious think about that? i mean, given last night's results, is paul ryan part of the solution for them or part of the problem? >> on the positive side he probably comes out better out of this election than sarah palin did. >> that's an exponential difference. >> yes, we can give him faint praise here. he's staep established himself as a serious intellectual. now, the policies he's espousing for the moment have been knocked down by the electorate. obviously, four years from now, things could be very different. but he's certainly going to be a power player on the hill here. you'll see a lot of tension between him and the establishment that's trying to reign he's people in and say, look, have you to respect the will of the electorate. >> the truth
that's a direct repudiation of what paul ryan has stood for. because he tied himself to closely to paul ryan's economic plan, it basically became a repudiation of that plan as well. >> now, paul ryan is often mentioned as a possible presidential candidate for 2016. but don't republicans have to have a serious think about that? i mean, given last night's results, is paul ryan part of the solution for them or part of the problem? >> on the positive side he probably comes out better...
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mitt romney and paul ryan -- don't forget paul ryan is still out there lurking about somewhere. >> speaker boehner says he will be involved in the discussions with the president. >> and they made a very strong ideological case on their side that you got to, you know, lower tax rates for all, don't worry as much about the deficit, the revenues will come in, and we have to get rid of the social safety net the way it's been, and cut spending, slash spending dramatically. it was very divided policywise and barack obama won pretty handily. >> a week after the election john boehner, speaker boehner, does a press statement and he says we're not going to raise revenues. we should look at loopholes and deductions. >> one thing that hasn't changed and you can put on as many senate republicans as you want looking reasonable. what hasn't changed is the tea party caucus in the house. they've lost a few members, but they're still a majority and john boehner has to find some way to get something past them. that's why i doubt there will be a christmastime deal. i think the president is going to have to le
mitt romney and paul ryan -- don't forget paul ryan is still out there lurking about somewhere. >> speaker boehner says he will be involved in the discussions with the president. >> and they made a very strong ideological case on their side that you got to, you know, lower tax rates for all, don't worry as much about the deficit, the revenues will come in, and we have to get rid of the social safety net the way it's been, and cut spending, slash spending dramatically. it was very...
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as for paul ryan, he just can't believe urban americans managed to leave their sad, cramped apartments and tenments and made the long trek to the voting booth. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> apparently mr. ryan forgot his opponents were giving out free birth control. should have seen that coming. now, some in the gop are trying to escape this whirling vortex of deep denial and blame, especially those looking to run in 2016. louisiana governor bobby jindal was out at a mike within hours. >> i absolutely reject that notion, that description. i think that's absolutely wrong. i don't think that represents where we are as a party and where we're going as a party. >> well, into which dimension the party is headed still remains very much up for question. let's get right to our panel. here in new york joy reid is the managing editor of thegrio.com. msnbc contributor ari melber is a columnist for "the nation." and in washington msnbc contributor jared bernste
as for paul ryan, he just can't believe urban americans managed to leave their sad, cramped apartments and tenments and made the long trek to the voting booth. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> apparently mr. ryan forgot his opponents were giving out free birth control. should have seen that coming. now, some in the gop are trying to escape this...
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well, we just -- >> we needed paul ryan actually to help get the job done. >> even having paul ryan talk about it. it's amazing. they decided while mitt romney lost the election, his ideas, they think won. i don't know how they get there. >> i feel like what they're trying to do is say, we lost, never mind but we're going to keep doing what we do. if we keep saying it enough, maybe -- >> i read that -- john boehner's op-ed pretty carefully. here's one thing he said. he said there are three ways to take down obama care, through the courts, through the election -- by the way, both of those haven't worked out -- three through what he called congressional oversight. to me, what he's saying there is congressional sabotage. >> right. >> maybe i'm -- maybe i didn't listen closely enough to, you know, civics back in elementary school, but the job of the congress is to implement the supreme court-backed law of the land. >> that's right. >> to me what he's saying is really quite scary when you get down to it. >> i want to ask -- there's a question on that because essentially they've been defeated
well, we just -- >> we needed paul ryan actually to help get the job done. >> even having paul ryan talk about it. it's amazing. they decided while mitt romney lost the election, his ideas, they think won. i don't know how they get there. >> i feel like what they're trying to do is say, we lost, never mind but we're going to keep doing what we do. if we keep saying it enough, maybe -- >> i read that -- john boehner's op-ed pretty carefully. here's one thing he said. he...
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we understand paul ryan will be there as well. >> i think the president wants to strike a bipartisan note. romney no longer has to mullify the right wing of his paerd. he doesn't have strong feelings about much of anything at all. is it possible he could come out and bless what these business executives have been calling for, which is the president's balanced approach? anything's possible with mitt romney. and i think it very much makes sense for the president to extend an olive branch. you can say that -- >> but i thought mitt romney was -- hang on a second. i thought mitt romney was the one who proposed and espoused the notion of closing loopholes as the only way -- >> we know he's a flip-flopper. we don't have to -- >> that's true. >> he actually does -- it's easy to dump on him right now because he lost. but he got more than 60 million votes, you know. there are a number of people in this country who like mitt romney, voted for him. and if he endorsed a compromise, might be more willing to go along. >> bill, the discussions become a little dark around these issues. i want to you
we understand paul ryan will be there as well. >> i think the president wants to strike a bipartisan note. romney no longer has to mullify the right wing of his paerd. he doesn't have strong feelings about much of anything at all. is it possible he could come out and bless what these business executives have been calling for, which is the president's balanced approach? anything's possible with mitt romney. and i think it very much makes sense for the president to extend an olive branch....
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>> always great to see paul ryan. >> while today's lunch was perhaps an opportunity to shake after a hard fought campaign, not everybody was feeling so friendly. take for example john bain mother earlier today slammed the president for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> speaker boehner said the president needs to get serious about what spending cuts he's willing to make. but that was news to senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him, okay? >> he's not alone. all this comes as treasury secretary tim geithner held separate meetings today with boehner, reid, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell, and over at the white house spokesman jay carney said the debt ceiling should not be a pawn in any kind of fiscal
>> always great to see paul ryan. >> while today's lunch was perhaps an opportunity to shake after a hard fought campaign, not everybody was feeling so friendly. take for example john bain mother earlier today slammed the president for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap....